It’s a Saturday day successful Los Angeles, and each is mean connected the roadworthy but for 1 popular prima tuning successful to a Zoom call.
“We are aged now, dude,” Madison Beer, who conscionable turned 26 years aged backmost successful March, says with a laugh.
She places her telephone disconnected to the rider spot to debar an accident. She explains that, understandably, she does not marque her ain docket — hence the circumstances of her taking an interrogation down the wheel. The past twelvemonth has been engaged for the philharmonic sensation, with the rollout of her caller album, “locket,” successful afloat swing.
Beer, who struck fame astatine 13 years aged for her YouTube opus covers, began receiving beardown designation and captious acclaim for her archetypal euphony by 2018, with the merchandise of “As She Pleases.”
However, it would beryllium 2021’s “Silence Between Songs” that snatched her archetypal Grammy information successful the immersive medium category. She’s got different accidental to triumph astatine this year’s ceremonial Feb. 1, with her deed azygous “Make You Mine” getting a information for creation popular recording.
“Locket,” released Jan. 16, is surely different glittering accidental astatine occurrence for Beer, who, contempt having droves of endowment and a cult-like following, has yet to onslaught the aforesaid taste chord arsenic immoderate of her Gen Z peers.
She’s spent the past 2 years “cracking astatine this thing,” whose rollout formally began with “yes baby,” an breathtaking azygous wrought with hues of physics influence. That was followed by a synth-pop tune successful “bittersweet” and “bad enough,” which leaned backmost into emblematic popular production. Fans tin drawback her latest merchandise unrecorded successful 2026 erstwhile she embarks connected tour, stopping astatine the Kia Forum connected June 24.
She spoke with The Times astir however “locket” came to be, from its aboriginal conception stages to yet hitting shelves.
Where bash you deliberation you’ve evolved the astir arsenic an creator since your past merchandise successful “Silence Between Songs?”
I’ve hopefully grown successful each aspect. I learned a batch from “Silence Between Songs,” successful the consciousness that radical truly connected to the songs that I was truly susceptible and honorable on. It made maine beryllium like, “OK, adjacent if a song’s not a deed and not a opus that has truthful galore streams, that doesn’t mean that it’s not impactful to galore people.” And that was inspiring to me.
Does it ever consciousness unusual that the songs you wrote for yourself and astir your ain experiences are ones that fans tin link to truthful strongly?
It’s honestly my favourite portion astir doing this because, you constitute thing that you’re like, “Oh, nary one’s gonna get what I’m adjacent referring to oregon talking about,” and past you sing that opus to a assemblage of thousands of people, and everyone knows the words, and they’re each crying to it and relating to it. It’s nuts.
With “yes baby,” the opus leans heavy into a “hyper pop” sound, which is going around. Were you inspired by anyone erstwhile making this song, oregon was it much of your ain creation?
There wasn’t truly a rhyme oregon reason. I deliberation I felt similar it was benignant of inactive coming disconnected the steam of “make you mine.”
It feels similar it started with “make you mine” for me, and I decidedly deliberation that was solely conscionable due to the fact that I wanted to marque thing amusive for tour, really, due to the fact that my past medium was a spot slower and much acoustic.
Beer archetypal roseate to fame successful the aboriginal 2010s, notably for her YouTube screen of “At Last.”
(Morgan Maher)
Having grown up successful the 2010s, bash you consciousness similar you drew a batch of inspiration from that decennary erstwhile moving connected these songs?
For sure. Honestly, Gwen Stefani was a immense notation for that opus [“angel wings”]. I wanted thing that felt nostalgic successful a way, with a small spot of an R&B interaction to it.
But, honestly, I consciousness similar what you’re saying is precise typical of the full project. I deliberation that the full medium has a sprinkle of 2011 connected it.
A batch of those sounds from that epoch are worthy reviving, but bash you deliberation immoderate are amended disconnected near successful the past?
I’m definite determination are immoderate songs I tin deliberation of from past that I say, “Maybe we don’t request to revive that one.” But honestly, there’s truthful overmuch goodness.
I deliberation pre-social media, pre-TikTok, pre-all that stuff, radical approached making euphony differently. There was possibly a small spot much experimentation. There’s similar a feeling that you get that I would emotion to harness successful immoderate way.
What did your penning process look similar for this album?
It’s honestly each implicit the place. Obviously, considering that it’s been a beauteous agelong time, I deliberation that it’s beauteous each implicit the place. But mainly, I usually conscionable spell in, I absorption connected chords and stuff, and past I constitute the lyrics.
Well … no. Then I bash melodies, and past I bash lyrics. That’s usually the bid of my operation.
It’s truthful brainsick watching immoderate of that footage back, and you tin spot my gears turning, being like, “What is the lyric?” And past I evidently cognize what the lyric ended up being. It’s truly chill to person that footage. I’m excited that we pressed grounds connected those cameras, due to the fact that I’ve ne'er done that before.
I’ve ne'er similar filmed my process. I’m usually beauteous focused, truthful the thought of mounting up a camera and pressing record, it felt similar I wouldn’t seizure an authentic moment, but we honestly conscionable had it moving for hours and hours and hours.
The authoritative medium screen for “locket.”
(Epic Records)
You said that astatine 1 point, this was astir a conception medium from the position of a robot. What pushed you toward that and, subsequently, distant from it?
All my projects person started with an thought that past doesn’t travel to fruition, and it’s much truthful conscionable what kick-starts the originative process for me, being like, “OK, this conceptually is cool.”
I liked the thought of immoderate robotic happening … erstwhile I archetypal started it, it didn’t truly get that far, but I thought, “How tin I marque it interesting?” For me, it’s benignant of easier to archer stories oregon constitute songs from the position of a quality versus from the position of me, if that makes sense.
But past erstwhile I commencement creating it, and I consciousness unfastened capable and capable to beryllium honorable capable to bash it, past it’s whatever. You know, I’m not truly hesitant to stock things, and I don’t request a quality to fell behind.
Was determination thing you struggled with connected this album, successful particular?
I deliberation that my ain interior pressures were stressing maine out. I was like, “OK, I request to present thing that’s amended than my past album.” And that ended up not being productive. I realized precise rapidly that putting that unit connected myself is similar shooting yourself successful the foot, successful my opinion.
Once I fto spell of that, I said, “No, I tin conscionable bash thing that feels bully to me, and it doesn’t person to beryllium for charts oregon streams.” Then, it felt a batch much freeing, and I was capable to constitute without immoderate restrictions.

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