Stephanie Turner, Payton McNabb open up on chaotic DOGE hearing on trans athletes

Female athletes Stephanie Turner and Payton McNabb testified to members of Congress astatine the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) Subcommittee's "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" proceeding connected Wednesday.

At 1 constituent during the hearing, the 2 women were approached by Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas. 

"'You're some precise courageous. You're precise courageous being here, and I privation to accidental convey you for each of this,'" Crockett said to the 2 women, Turner told Fox News Digital.  

"And I said ‘Payton and I some took clip retired of our time to beryllium there, and I find it precise disrespectful that you would co-opt this proceeding that is astir maine and Payton and marque it astir your ain politics.’"

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Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett, center, speaks to Stephanie Turner, left, a fencer who refused to vie against a transgender athlete, and Payton McNabb, a erstwhile North Carolina precocious schoolhouse volleyball subordinate who was injured by a transgender opponent, during the proceeding connected "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" held by the DOGE Subcommittee connected May 7, 2025 successful Washington, D.C. (Kayla Bartkowski/Getty Images)

Crockett had conscionable utilized her crook during the proceeding to divert the speech distant from protecting women's sports, the main intent of the hearing, to condemn President Donald Trump for different issues. Crockett antecedently attempted to talk retired of crook earlier successful the hearing. 

Then Crockett adjacent made airy of the contented of trans jock inclusion by turning her monologue into a crippled she called "Trump oregon Trans." The crippled featured Crockett asking different witnesser whether to blasted Trump oregon trans radical for a bid of unsubstantiated issues that included "increasing the terms of everything" and "ignoring the constitution." The witnesser responded "Trump" each 12 times. 

Crockett has been outspokenly opposed to Republican efforts to support trans athletes retired of women's and girls' sports, adjacent antecedently mocking Americans who assertion to person been impacted. Yet, she tried to beryllium complimentary with McNabb and Turner, according to them. 

"I deliberation she was lying," McNabb, an Independent Women Ambassador, told Fox News Digital. "I did not judge 1 connection she said, due to the fact that virtually the theatrics, and conscionable however she acted virtually the full clip and past trying to travel implicit and susurration and beryllium bully miss to us. I don't cognize what happened, it was similar a full different idiosyncratic than what we each saw 10 seconds earlier she got implicit there."

Fox News Digital reached retired to Crockett for further comment.

Crockett's antics were 1 of conscionable respective incidents that highlighted a proceeding of chaos that progressive aggregate shouting matches betwixt committee members and witnesses, arsenic good arsenic plainly questionable comments. Many specified comments confused, frustrated and offended Turner and McNabb. 

McNabb suffered imperishable encephalon injuries successful precocious schoolhouse aft getting spiked successful the caput by a trans hostile during a volleyball match. She past had to ticker opposing witnesser Fatima Goss Graves, CEO of the National Women's Law Center, suggest that the mode to forestall different women from facing akin injuries is to forestall spiking successful volleyball altogether.

"I would reason that the reply is to guarantee radical can't spike volleyballs into different people's heads," Goss Graves said during the proceeding erstwhile responding McNabb's story.

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Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene holds up maps of the U.S. successful beforehand of an alleged screenshot from USA Fencing committee manager Damien Lehfeldt's Instagram during the proceeding connected "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" held by the Department of Government Efficiency Subcommittee astatine the U.S. Capitol connected May 7, 2025 successful Washington, D.C. (Kayla Bartkowski/Getty Images)

For McNabb, Goss Graves' reply was startling. 

"That was conscionable perfectly ridiculous," McNabb said. "The information of the substance is, that time and that wounded was dissimilar thing other I've ever experienced, and it's due to the fact that it was a antheral who deed maine successful the face, it's truly conscionable that simple."

What came arsenic an adjacent bigger daze to McNabb was erstwhile Goss Graves offered to enactment with the erstwhile volleyball subordinate to assistance her retrieve from her encephalon damage, during the hearing. 

"That's not happening. This pistillate is evidently not sane, and I don't cognize wherefore she would deliberation I would ever privation immoderate aesculapian proposal oregon proposal successful wide from her," McNabb said.

Turner, who went viral successful April for refusing to look a trans hostile astatine a fencing lucifer and getting punished by USA Fencing, took peculiar discourtesy to comments made by Rep. Lateefah Simon, D-Cal. During Simon's turn, she suggested that protecting women's sports would pb to bringing backmost radical segregation and that Black women would beryllium disproportionately targeted by trans jock regularisation laws. 

"I find that, arsenic a Black pistillate myself, to beryllium rather offensive," Turner said. 

"I find it violative due to the fact that they pb with this connection ‘as a Black woman, I’m a Black woman.' Well, I'm a Black woman, I was calved successful Washington D.C., I was raised successful 1 of the bluest parts of America successful Montgomery County, Maryland, and no, I don't hold with you, that's wrong." 

Wednesday besides marked the archetypal clip Turner came face-to-face with USA Fencing seat Damien Lehfeldt, who was subpoenaed to the hearing, since her viral kneel protest. Turner was fixed a achromatic paper for refusing to look the trans opponent, disqualified and escorted retired of the venue, and past fixed a 12-month probation. 

Lehfeldt was aggressively pressed by Republican committee members passim the proceeding astir his organization's pro-trans policies and punishment of Turner. 

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From near to right, Rep. Jasmine Crockett, Rep. Melanie Stansbury and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene talk during the proceeding connected "Unfair Play: Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports" held by the Department of Government Efficiency Subcommittee astatine the U.S. Capitol connected May 7, 2025 successful Washington, D.C. (Kayla Bartkowski/Getty Images)

At 1 point, Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., utilized her clip to inquire Lehfeldt to apologize to Turner. Lefheldt did not apologize upon the request, and successful response, Mace suggested Lehfeldt was "not" a man.

"Real men support women, you're not one," Mace said. 

Turner said she was not amazed by Lehfeldt's refusal to apologize and would not person accepted it adjacent if helium did.

"An apology is conscionable bare words without actions," Turner said. 

Turner added that aft Wednesday's hearing, she sees the adjacent large extremity successful the question to support women's sports is to propulsion USA Fencing to marque factual changes to its sex eligibility argumentation to support women competitors. 

The enactment said it is preparing to amend its existent policies that let biologic males to vie with women and girls successful the lawsuit that it is "forced" to alteration it. 

Education Secretary Linda McMahon antecedently announced that the recently formed Title IX investigations squad volition beryllium probing the incidental involving Turner and trans rival Redmond Sullivan. 

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