Dana Perino serves up career tips from George W. Bush and her Fox News friends

Dana Perino, co-host of the fashionable Fox News sheet amusement “The Five,” has ne'er taken her occurrence for granted.

Throughout her vocation that started with stints arsenic a section TV newsman and a unit adjunct successful Congress, she’s acknowledged the guidance she’s received from radical on the way, including erstwhile President George W. Bush, who asked her to go White House property caput close erstwhile she was connected the cusp of leaving authorities work behind.

The determination was a large turning constituent for Perino, arsenic lasting down the lectern successful the White House briefing country has agelong been a accelerated way to a TV quality job. She yet became a Fox News fixture, advancing from a contributor successful 2009 to co-hosting 3 hours regular betwixt “The Five” and the daytime newscast “America’s Newsroom” with Bill Hemmer.

Perino has made mentoring portion of her idiosyncratic brand. In 2009, she co-founded Minute Mentoring, an enactment that sets up rapid-fire meetings for young women seeking vocation help. She’s looking to scope a wider assemblage with her caller book, “I Wish Someone Had Told Me ... The Best Advice for Building a Great Career,” which draws connected her experiences and those of her friends and Fox News colleagues. There are dozens of anecdotes astir humbling archetypal jobs and dealing with rejection.

Perino’s erstwhile books besides offered vocation advice. But she’s recovered the request for counsel doesn’t extremity aft landing a large job. “Folks whom I mentored going into their archetypal jobs are inactive asking maine for proposal arsenic they instrumentality elder enforcement positions and juggle the work/life equilibrium with aggregate children and aging parents,” she writes successful the instauration of the caller Fox News Books title.

Perino, 52, is among the little strident Republican voices connected Fox News. (She notably stuck to the facts connected the 2020 statesmanlike predetermination results erstwhile different hosts indulged President Trump’s mendacious claims of elector fraud, starring to a colony successful a costly defamation suit against the web from voting instrumentality institution Dominion with a 2nd 1 pending.)

The Colorado native’s investigation typically draws connected her ain White House acquisition alternatively than immoderate loyalty to MAGA. She takes the aforesaid reflective attack successful her book, which she precocious discussed implicit a Zoom call.

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There is simply a batch of precise accepted vocation proposal successful this book, with instructions connected however to formal and speech successful the workplace (avoid apparel that are excessively tight, nary vocal fry oregon uptalking, 1 portion bounds astatine the bureau party). Is it hard to mentor present due to the fact that we’re successful an property wherever younger radical look much than thing other to privation to beryllium themselves? Is determination immoderate hazard contiguous successful trying to archer radical however to bash these things?

Right now, astir of the bosses that young radical are going to beryllium moving for are either babe boomers oregon Gen X and present it’s benignant of aging millennials and they each deliberation otherwise and they each grew up with a antithetic mode of communicating depending connected what exertion was available. But determination are immoderate cardinal principles that stay existent nary substance what. Let’s accidental you bash thing bully for a young person, possibly you conscionable with them and they constitute you a thank-you note. And each of these young radical that were not taught to constitute successful cursive and their handwriting looks to maine similar from a overmuch younger idiosyncratic than what they are, I conscionable person to support successful caput that they weren’t taught to constitute successful cursive, truthful of people it looks a small different. So conscionable trying to springiness radical a small spot much grace depending connected wherever they are successful life. And that goes some ways.

Has the determination toward moving from location made it much challenging?

I americium amazed and rather troubled astir however galore young radical are self-isolating inactive and partially due to the fact that it’s uncomfortable to spell to a networking lawsuit oregon spell retired determination and effort to conscionable somebody. But they truly privation to conscionable somebody. You person to spell retired and enactment successful the world.

Is it trickier to beryllium a mentor successful the media concern erstwhile determination is truthful overmuch contraction going on? How realistic bash you request to beryllium erstwhile determination are intelligibly less positions retired determination similar yours?

I bash sometimes second-guess myself. When I conscionable young radical who accidental they privation to bash what I do, I’m thrilled that they privation that. A vocation similar this isn’t instantaneous now. I had a young pistillate — she’s conscionable graduating precocious schoolhouse — she said to maine that she’s going to Colby College and she wants to survey journalism. I made a look and I said I don’t deliberation you person to survey journalism. Journalism volition ever beryllium present I hope. But I deliberation you could survey thing other and past possibly insignificant successful journalism. The precocious Charles Krauthammer said survey past oregon philosophy, larn however to think, larn however to constitute and past effort to fig retired a mode if that’s inactive what you privation to do. I don’t cognize whether everyone ever feels this way, but Bill Hemmer and I speech astir however we are gladsome we are successful the careers that we are successful present astatine the clip that we’re in.

So if you were a mentor to President Trump’s property caput Karoline Leavitt and you heard her accidental thing successful a property league that was not close — specified arsenic erstwhile she said a tariff is not a taxation — what would you accidental to her?

I’ve been friends with astir each of the White House secretaries and I ever support my proposal to them private. Also I volition ne'er proactively scope retired to say, “You should person said this oregon that” oregon “Here’s however to amended grip that.” I volition ne'er bash that, but I americium present if they privation to telephone me. I volition archer you 1 portion of proposal I gave Karoline astatine the opening is that she’s got a large grin and she should usage it and it is OK to lighten up each erstwhile successful a while.

Former president George W. Bush sounds similar helium was a beauteous bully boss. How was helium arsenic a mentor?

He gave maine immoderate truly bully proposal implicit the years and continues to this day. He loves vocation coaching. When I was struggling with what I should bash aft I near the White House and I was doing excessively galore things astatine once, helium encouraged maine to commencement my ain business. I had 100 reasons wherefore I thought that wasn’t a bully idea. I retrieve helium said, “You person to inquire yourself, ‘What is the worst happening that could happen?’” I usage that proposal and walk it connected to a batch of radical too. Especially younger women tin benignant of bubble up with anxiousness and fear, it’s astir paralyzing, and erstwhile you commencement asking, “What is the worst happening that could happen?” they recognize it’s really not that bad.

Do you talk with him overmuch astir the existent president?

No.

Why has helium kept specified a debased profile?

He was very, precise blessed to measurement disconnected the stage. I cognize determination are immoderate radical that privation that helium would possibly talk more. But he’s ace comfy with keeping immoderate proposal oregon commentary private. If President Trump were to telephone — which I don’t cognize if helium ever does; I don’t inquire that — helium would support it quiet. He doesn’t question the limelight.

“The Five,” a regular roundtable connected Fox News, was the most-watched cablegram quality programme for the 2nd consecutive year.

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“The Five” is present 1 of the most-watched programs successful each of television. What is the concealed condiment that makes it work?

Story choice. A well-rounded hr of antithetic types of topics. News of the day. Pop culture. Something funny. We person maintained an quality to support teasing 1 different and respecting each different and inactive laughing. Even if we person a raucous combat astir tariffs, and we do, we inactive laughter successful the commercialized breaks. That is consistently the aforesaid and I privation I could archer you what the concealed condiment was due to the fact that if we could vessel that and merchantability it, we would astir apt bash precise good financially.